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Tsu Doh Nimh	Is something wrong with this forum?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 297 (09/03/06 19:22:05) Frequent User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I have seen several updates to this forum (Questions About the Apostolic Christian Church ) indicated on the main page in the last week or so but when I open the forum none of the individual topics have any updates and there are no new topics. Also, if I don't log in the topics are not in chronological order but if I do log in they are. Is anything wrong? Is it just me or are others reporting this problem. None of the other forums seem to have this problem. God Bless, --Tsu Doh Nimh
Mikeybotchie	Re: Is something wrong with this forum?	#1	[-]
Posts: 174 (09/04/06 08:12:37) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Tsu, I hope you do not mind that I released your post. You are correct in your assessments regarding this forum showing that there have been new posts but then nothing shows. The reason for this is spam. We've been getting quite a bit of spam in this forum that is then deleted and never released. However, to registered users like you, it shows that there are new posts the next time you log in. But when you open the forum, you do not see any new posts because the spam has been deleted. I've been meaning to inform everyone of this, and your post reminded me to do so. Take care!
Tsu Doh Nimh	Re: Is something wrong with this forum?	#2	[-]
Posts: 297 (09/04/06 09:03:30) Frequent User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Interesting. It begs a few questions. Why would a spammer attack just one forum, unless he had in interest in the specific topic? In this case he would not be a random spammer. Could he be connected to the ACCx denomination? Just asking rhetorical questions. God Bless, --Tsu Doh Nimh
Davey	Re: Is something wrong with this forum?	#3	[-]
Posts: 122 (09/04/06 18:33:16) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tsu, spammers attack hundreds (if not thousands) of discussion sites and have no interest in each board's subject. They just happened to randomly save this board to their spam software, and continually attempt to create new threads, hoping that the discussion group is not moderated. I'm sure their software doesn't stop even if boards are moderated. Also, chances are, they stumbled across this website via Google search terms, website randomizers, etc., and have no interest in what is discussed here or in the other thousands of boards they impact.
Unregistered(d)	This Forum Is One of the Best I've Ever Seen	#4	[-]
Posts: 0 (09/26/06 18:04:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think we all owe thanks to those who moderate this forum. From what I've seen, they do so unselfishly and very well. My opinions have not always been popular. Many who post here seem to have no real background in the ACCA or ACCN, but they are welcomed. I feel the Spirit of Christ here, despite our differences. Thank you to all who spend their time making this a true meeting of minds and hearts.
NeoXerxes	To the mods	#5	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/07/07 11:33:50) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I just want to add a thanks as well for all you guys do. Uno questione (no idea if i spelled that right )... My girlfriend recently posted a couple things on these forums (her user name is MissNX), but it hasn't shown up and it's been a few days. Did the mods not release the posts for some reason?
Davey	Re: To the mods	#6	[-]
Posts: 122 (04/07/07 13:41:31) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	There are many reasons a post might not be released. I would suggest asking your friend about the content of the post and suggest resending it if you find value in sharing the post's message to a body of believers and non-believers alike. As long as the post is on-topic, of reasonable length and follows the guidelines for this board, it is usually posted. Of course there are some exceptions, as this board is as imperfect as any of us (myself being chief), so I'm certain you can understand where a post gets overlooked. Certainly, if the post(s) would have been edifying to Christ and his Church, it should be worth sending again.
NeoXerxes	Thanks Davey	#7	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/07/07 15:32:06) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I guess it must have been overlooked. I don't know by what standard you judge these posts, but hopefully it wasn't censored for its content. Free speech is good (with some exceptions), especially when it comes to religion. I will ask my girlfriend to resend it.
amchiro	Re: A mod ACCA?	#8	[-]
Posts: 246 (04/07/07 20:15:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	NX, Are you ACCA? I didn't know they allowed 'girlfriends'... If you wouldn't mind being candid with us, how is a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship supported by Scripture. What is the difference (to you) between a girlfriend and a girl-friend. Just curious.
Davey	Re: Thanks Davey	#9	[-]
Posts: 122 (04/07/07 21:20:00) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Click here for this board's guidelines. The 'freedom of speech' to which you refer is the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution, correct? It reads 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion... or abridging the freedom of speech.' I have not yet met all of the moderators in person, but I am pretty sure they are not members of the U.S. Congress. In fact, I understand some are quite International, as are many visitors to this board. It is not sanctioned by any Government or any specific church. Therefore, it is imperfect, but it also has its limits. This website (taken from the above guideline link) 'exists to honor, praise and glorify our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We encourage everyone to share their thoughts and insights in a Godly manner.' I expect this will assist in making clear why some posts might be 'deleted without warning'. I understand it has even happened to administrators. Nobody's perfect, but everyone has to obey. I hope that helps & look forward to future contributions.
NeoXerxes	1 Cor 13	#10	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/07/07 21:58:27) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Amchiro, "Are you ACCA?" No. My girlfriend was though . "If you wouldn't mind being candid with us, how is a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship supported by Scripture." I would be happy to discuss this with you and everyone else... but if you would be candid with me; how is it not? "What is the difference (to you) between a girlfriend and a girl-friend. Just curious." In terms most familiar to you (assuming you are ACCA), I have chosen her and have gotten permission from my Elder (God himself in this case). My Elder talked to her Elder (the same Guy) and we have received a prayerful word that we are to marry (eventually). In other words, she is my significant other . Happy early easter .
NeoXerxes	Freedom of Speech Keeps this Forum Alive	#11	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/07/07 22:13:40) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"The 'freedom of speech' to which you refer is the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution, correct?" Nope (if you are an extreme Constructionist). I, as many others in this great country, take the meaning as manifested through legislative intent and judicial precedence. "I have not yet met all of the moderators in person, but I am pretty sure they are not members of the U.S. Congress. In fact, I understand some are quite International, as are many visitors to this board. It is not sanctioned by any Government or any specific church. Therefore, it is imperfect, but it also has its limits." Totally understandable... but what does this have to do with freedom of speech? This term (although VERY general) symbolizes freedom and justice. As we (Christians) are free through Christ, so does he also mete out Justice. I think we should attempt to emulate Him by not crucifying people we don't agree with. "This website (taken from the above guideline link) 'exists to honor, praise and glorify our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We encourage everyone to share their thoughts and insights in a Godly manner.'" Totally agree here... although you have the power to FORCE everyone to share things in whatever form you want (since you are a moderator), I don't believe it's up to you to decide what is a Godly manner and what is not. I am sure the Pharisees didn't think Jesus was acting in a godly manner when he 'desecrated' the Sabbath. I sure hope you agree with the ideas you put forward Davey. If you do, I am sure you would agree that they would win in the general battlefield of ideas (since you believe they are right), would you not? Therefore, you should encourage speech of any kind, because your belief system, having the most merit, should prevail. I simply ask that you do not confuse the church with the Church when items are posted. Thanks Davey, and in case you didn't read my other post in time, have a wonderful Easter . -NX
Davey	Re: Freedom of Speech Keeps this Forum Alive	#12	[-]
Posts: 122 (04/08/07 07:46:22) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Your American exceptionalism should not blind you to much of the world that cannot participate in this forum and where simply visiting this forum could be grounds for persecution. Your colloquial use of 'Freedom of speech' does not apply to Christians in most of the world and shows a very narrow, Americanized perspective. And because the U.S. government doesn't sanction or operate this site, I'm afraid your 'freedom' on this particular site will be limited to the discernment of the Spirit through believers and the guidelines set forth to maintain order. 1 Corintians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order. That being said, 'freedom/liberty of speech' does not apply to Christians, as - while we may be free, we are not free to do whatever we choose so that grace may abound (God forbid) Romans 6:22. We are still subject to the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2:12-14 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Therefore, I should clarify - moderators use the Holy Spirit to discern (first and foremost) as well as the boards guidelines. I expect you are comfortable with the Holy Spirit being the ultimate moderator. Certainly you can agee that a council of Christians can have the Spirit's discernment to oversee the board, imperfect as they may be. (Matt. 18:19, Amos 3:3) Thanks be to God for the ultimate moderator, the Holy Spirit of the Godhead Trinity. (Ephesians 4:30)
N789DB	Re: 1 Cor 13	#13	[-]
Posts: 372 (04/08/07 12:26:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* we are to marry (eventually). Does this mean she has a ring and a date (wedding) commitment from you? If not, why not?
NeoXerxes	Exceptionalism? No no nooooo...	#14	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/08/07 14:47:35) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"Your American exceptionalism should not blind you to much of the world that cannot participate in this forum and where simply visiting this forum could be grounds for persecution." I disagree with the 'exceptionalism' part but certainly I agree with you. I don't think we should hang people for using simple terms that their theocratic governments might not allow them to use either. Look at Islamic theocracies. "Your colloquial use of 'Freedom of speech' does not apply to Christians in most of the world and shows a very narrow, Americanized perspective." Your right... so shouldn't we be encouraging Freedom of Speech? Why is it a bad thing... "That being said, 'freedom/liberty of speech' does not apply to Christians, as - while we may be free, we are not free to do whatever we choose so that grace may abound (God forbid) Romans 6:22. We are still subject to the Holy Spirit. " Funny enough, I agree with you . I simply disagree with your ultra-conservative approach to this matter. Using an expression like that does not mean that I am disobeying the Holy Spirit by any means. I have no idea why you would even bring this up. By the way, limiting debate (even on these forums) is bad in terms of biblical standards, especially when we are commanded to counteract arguments in the PUBLIC forum. "I expect you are comfortable with the Holy Spirit being the ultimate moderator." Absolutely! What I am concerned with is moderators misinterpreting the holy spirit... much in the same way Charismatic Christians invent their own prophecies. "Certainly you can agee that a council of Christians can have the Spirit's discernment to oversee the board, imperfect as they may be." I believe you are human, and are legitimately doing the best you can do. I'm not disputing the intent nor the outcome. I just want less censorship so that intelligent debate can come forth. If you would notice, in the Bible, Jesus does not prance around yelling at the Pharisees to shut-up, or even silencing unbelievers for their blasphemy. He simply destroys their arguments with his own ideas. I prefer to follow that model rather that of the avenue of censorship. In regards to your quoting of 1 Cor 2:12-14, that does not mean that you have the PERFECT knowledge of what is of God and what is not. Again, I bring up the Charismatics. They come up with much nonesense and claim it is of God when in reality it is of their own tradition. Arguments like the one you put forward simply puts the word God gave me against the word God gave you. Surely you are not trying to say that you are holier than me and therefore have the capability to discern my spirits as invalid?
amchiro	boyfriend/girlfriend	#15	[-]
Posts: 246 (04/09/07 02:02:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	NX You dont have to speak in ACC terms. I have a full vocabulary to communicate with, and I believe, according to Scripture, that if you are not betrothed to one, you have no right to consider her your girlfriend. (I'm ACCN and single). To me and most Americans, a girlfriend is someone that I would be dating, spending time with, someone that you consider 'yours', as you consider yourself 'theirs' exclusively, and having some sort of physical romance-relationship with, i.e. toying with the stuff that comes with a marriage relationship but not being married. Is that plain enough a definition for you? I'm happy to hear your Elder speaks to you directly, maybe you can drop Him a line and see if He has a word for me too. In my 26 years of faith I have not heard from Him, although I hear from Him daily through His Word, and that Word instructs me to flee from youthful lusts, not to go a'courtin and fancifully imagine an 'eventual' marriage to someone. If you were engaged to be married I would still advise you to be careful, because you are not married and are placing yourself in a predicament where you are much more likely to sin. I don't think God or His Holy Spirit has instructed you to go there. I have very, very close friends who happen to be female, but my imagination doesn't run wild with them, i.e. the gaagaa stuff that goes along with infatuations and flirtations. They can be girl-friends and I can have many of them, as they are my Sisters in Christ. If other emotions or temptations were to come up with one of them, you can be sure that I would deal with those feelings and either seek to distance myself to preserve my singleness (and sanity), or move towards a marriage relationship with the relationship part only taking place after the marriage part.
NeoXerxes	Why...?	#16	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/09/07 19:13:22) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	N789DB, None of your business. -NeoXerxes
N789DB	Re: 1 Cor 13	#17	[-]
Posts: 372 (04/10/07 17:42:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* we have received a prayerful word that we are to marry Since "God told you that", might he change his mind at some point? *Quote:* None of your business. "Me Thinks He (you) Doth Protest Too Much" With that response I am reasonably confident the answer is no to a ring or a wedding date, not very honorable considering your claims (significant other etc.) If you know what is good for you, you better not use this "Gods will" line to take advantage of her, her dad might come after you with a shotgun, I know I would. Like most young women she probably has a lack of savvy when it comes to boys thinking they are men. I wish "modern" parents did a better job of teaching boys and girls what makes a man and how a biblical man behaves to protect the honor of a young woman he clams to care about. *Quote:* "If you wouldn't mind being candid with us, how is a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship supported by Scripture." I would be happy to discuss this with you and everyone else... I guess you changed your mind.
Davey	Re: American Exceptionalism	#18	[-]
Posts: 122 (04/10/07 20:24:41) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"I believe you are human, and are legitimately doing the best you can do." Thank you. At least this helps put something to rest. "I just want less censorship so that intelligent debate can come forth." Have you studied the Word on this topic? Provide scripture or Biblical principle to show how "less censorship" is necessary for "intelligent debate". And as for myself, I prefer "intelligent CHRISTIAN debate", but maybe that's just me...... I believe fear of censorship on a discussion board such as this is a laughable attempt to justify the use of carnal wisdom and argumentative theorems on a site where scripture is necessary and love is demanded, as Christ has asked of us. Your correct application and understanding of scripture is eternally more important than my incorrect application of censorship. We will trust you to do the former if you trust us (and the Spirit) for the latter. This board is here to follow its mission and the Lord's commission, not your - or any individual's mission. Thusly, I fail to see how less censorship is required in order to fulfill its mission to (from guidelines) "honor, praise and glorify our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ [by sharing] thoughts and insights in a Godly manner". What posts have ever been "censored" that also follow this mission? None. (In fact, sometimes snide remarks that don't follow the mission actually go uncensored, but that is me failing at my task, so it's really "none of your business". )
MissNX	NeoXerxes' girlfriend	#19	[-]
Posts: 5 (04/10/07 21:44:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	N789DB, I am NeoXerxes' girlfriend (the one that left the AC church). We may not have rings or a date yet but we both know that we are going to marry each other. We both have spent much time in prayer about this and are confident that it doesn't go against God's will or His plans for our lives. You may disagree, but that's between God, my boyfriend and I. As a former AC member I totally understand where you're coming from, however I disagree, and that's ok. You probably think that we are being foolish and you probably think that we don't know anything, along with a lot of other people (people of the AC church I attended and my family), I'm not disregarding everything they have said, but I'm not going to live my life based on how everyone else thinks I should (which is what I did for many years). I'm going to live my life for God alone (not to be confused with the AC church). And just fyi, he hasn't taken advantage of me, I'm not stupid.
NeoXerxes	What Bible are you using?	#20	[-]
Posts: 56 (04/10/07 23:02:55) Banned User Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	N789DB, Wow user, your Phariseeical talk of honor sickens me, considering you are using this post to attack my relationship with my girlfriend and ultimately, my own honor. I hope one day, you will read the ACTUAL Bible and learn that your attitude is favored by that of the whitewashed Pharisees, and the rest of the 'better-than-thou-art' crowd. I honestly hope you will change. "With that response I am reasonably confident the answer is no to a ring or a wedding date, not very honorable considering your claims (significant other etc.)" I am reasonably confident that you have no idea what you are talking about considering you have never met me. My relationship with my girlfriend is between me and God and I have simply no need to answer to you. "If you know what is good for you, you better not use this "Gods will" line to take advantage of her, her dad might come after you with a shotgun, I know I would." First of all, let me say that I welcome the shotgun... instant heaven-in-a-barrel if he pulls the trigger. Second, what gave you the impression that I'm either taking advantage of her or using a 'God's will' line to do anything? Lay off. You don't know the situation. People like you give the ACCA and Christianity in general a bad name. PLEASE stop hounding me with your self-righteousness and allow me to have my relationship with God and my girlfriend in peace. Thanks. "Like most young women she probably has a lack of savvy when it comes to boys thinking they are men." Like most Phariseeical Christians, you have a lack of savvy when it comes to logic and morality. Do not insult my girlfriend's intelligence or common sense. Speak no evil, remember? Oy... I hope you don't claim to be a man yourself or your definition must be sorely lacking. Personally, I wish modern parents did a better job of stopping their kids from gaining twisted definitions of what makes or does not make a man. Additionally, some modern parents have apparently failed at teaching their child honor at all. Do not doubt my claim N789DB... I do care for her. Excuse my venting, but I do believe you had it coming. No one should intrude where they do not belong, and that is what I believe you just did.

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